Homespun Haints: True Ghost Stories
True ghost stories are scarier (and funnier) when you hear them from the real people who experienced them. We’re Becky and Diana, and we interview people who have seen ghosts--so you can feel their fear with them. Each episode features true, personal stories of ghosts, demons, haints, hauntings, haunted houses, and paranormal experiences, sprinkled with humorous conversations about the random strange events in our own haunted lives.
Homespun Haints: True Ghost Stories
That's Just the Dead, Calling Your Name: a true ghost story interview with The Wandering Road Podcast host Chris
Chris from The Wandering Road podcast shares his family's terrifying experiences in both his childhood homes in The Bronx and Queens, NYC, where mysterious entities threatened and terrorized them for years.
• Childhood encounters with small shadowy creatures called "duendes" in their Bronx apartment
• Strange phenomenon in their Queens home including doors slamming and electronics turning on by themselves
• Heavy footsteps in the attic and mysterious knocking on doors with no one there
• A growling entity outside Chris's bedroom door at 4am
• Chris's sister's "imaginary friend" named Andy who wore a 1920s sailor suit
• Chris's aunt being thrown out of the bathroom
• Chris's mother getting attacked while blessing the house
• The spirit of an old woman threatened to kill Chris's family in his mother's dream
• Family members' voices would call family members' names when no one was home
• Nazi paraphernalia found in the attic seemed to confirm the rumor that previous owners practiced occult rituals
• These terrifying experiences led Chris to a spiritual awakening
You can find The Wandering Road podcast on podcast platforms, YouTube, and social media @TWRpod
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New York is known for many things A fast-paced demeanor, an incredible art scene and the ability to get a great slice of pizza at four in the morning. But for one family, their new house in a swanky Queens neighborhood meant one thing above all else evil spirits. Was this family tormented by deceased former residents of their home, or were evil occult Nazi practices at play? You decide today on Homespun Haints. Hello, hainted Loves, welcome to Homespun Haints. I am Becky. Hi, I'm Diana. Today on the show we have Chris from the Wandering Road podcast. We're so excited to talk to him. He approached us. He knows JJ, who you heard from a few episodes ago, and we are actually going to be on the Wandering Road podcast this week, on this Friday. So if you're listening to this episode as it comes out, make sure you go check out the Wandering Road podcast so you can hear me and Diana at all of our glory.
Speaker 2:Crossovers, crossovers. Everybody loves a crossover episode, don't they? Well, becky, luckily I saw something yesterday. Answers an age-old question that you've had for me in the past, and you've asked me this multiple times, and both times I had to guesstimate because I hadn't actually gotten any metrics yet. So yesterday I was able to gather data and interpret metrics to answer your question with perfect accuracy, and the answer is six minutes Okay.
Speaker 1:I don't know what question I would have asked.
Speaker 2:That's how long it takes for Aldabra tortoises to fuck. Don't you remember asking me that? And I didn't know. I was all impressed with myself. And then you asked me the one question. I didn't know timing. I don't pay attention to timing. There are tortoises fucking. I'm having too much fun watching.
Speaker 2:Oh, when you were at the zoo, yes, I was at the zoo, yeah, and yesterday I went back and I hung out right in the tortoise pen and it's springtime. One of the tortoises one of the big tortoises was following one of the little tortoises around for a long time. I following one of the little tortoises around for a long time. I was watching him chase her, and then another tortoise cut in line and totally, totally took it for himself. Was the female tortoise consenting to this act. I don't know how to define consent when it's a tortoise.
Speaker 1:I mean, was she trying to move away? Or she was like, ah, enjoying herself.
Speaker 2:She was walking slowly, while they were engaged in the coital activity. So, I'm assuming she was trying to get away, but tortoises don't do anything very fast.
Speaker 1:Okay, it took them six minutes Six minutes.
Speaker 2:For the entire event. I pulled out my video camera for you. Becky.
Speaker 1:So now you have a video of this. Oh no, Are we going to? Are we going to share it here?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Would you like to see it right now? I would Let me text it to you. The best part of this was it was like a total operation, like 70s porn operation, because Amber was filming from a different angle. So we actually have multiple camera angle views that we can edit together into a professional video of this if we want to.
Speaker 1:Well, how do you know for sure that he finished he?
Speaker 2:stopped groaning.
Speaker 1:He was groaning. Yeah Well, we won't play the entire clip here, Hainted Loves, because that would just be terrible.
Speaker 2:You'll have to go to the show notes for that if you want the entire clip.
Speaker 1:But here's a snippet for your viewing pleasure.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Snippet just sounds like too appropriate of a term for what we're about to see. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Speaker 1:Okay let's watch this thing. Oh my god, he is crowding.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, and if you zoom in, he's also regurgitating a bunch of chewed up grass.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, gross Sexy. Oh, she is not enjoying that at all. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:She's like. I wasn't expecting a regurgitation.
Speaker 1:That's a surprise, oh no, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2:The groaning is quite oh my god. Well, you know so.
Speaker 1:The groaning is quite impressive, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Sadly, there were no children at the time that required an explanation of the behavior, so we didn't get to talk about it but there were some other adults there laughing at me. Oh my god, you'll get to hear it later in the video, I guess.
Speaker 1:Why is he throwing up Gross Hard work?
Speaker 2:This guy's like 120 years old and weighs at least 300 pounds.
Speaker 1:He's just like whatever, Do not get me knocked up, you dumbass.
Speaker 2:Oh no, they're going for that. They've got one of the most successful Aldabra turtle breeding programs in any captivity in the United States. Yeah, I can see why. I can see why there's a lot of competition.
Speaker 1:Did they like spray her with aphrodisiacs or something?
Speaker 2:Something happened because those turtles were following her in a line. But here's the thing the guy who cut in line and got his the other guy. He literally watched and then turned around and sighed and a single wet tear dribbled from his little reptile eye. I'm not kidding, I'm not kidding. He sighed and cried when he lost his turn in line. I felt bad for that guy. He was not having a good day. I feel bad for the female. Oh no, wait here. Here's the ultimate kicker. If she really wanted to say no, guess what? The part of her shell right over her backside touches the ground. Oh. So if she wanted to cut him off, she could quite literally cut him off okay that's a hard shell and that's a lot of concrete.
Speaker 2:So whoa, okay, all right, so it was. It was at least consensual to that degree, oh my god, whoa.
Speaker 1:Okay, I can't unsee that that was. Do you have any?
Speaker 2:other questions now that I've answered your burning question of how long do they fuck?
Speaker 1:I'm at a loss for words. Excellent, I talk about being in the right place at the right time it is.
Speaker 2:It is uh fortunate because, like I said, six minutes out of who knows how many years since he's been able to find a female.
Speaker 1:I mean, they, they move really slow wow, okay, so she's gonna have little bibbids, little eggs. What kind of turtle is this again?
Speaker 2:A labra turtle, aldabra A-L-D-A-B-R-A. So yes, I have sent you their professional headshots that are on display at the zoo so you can identify who was fucking who and who was left out.
Speaker 1:Have I really asked you how long it takes for them to fuck? Has that actually been a question I've asked you? Are you just saying that for show business purpose? Really, yes, what is wrong with?
Speaker 2:me. Nothing that's not wrong with me, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, well, chris, you are welcome.
Speaker 2:And while Becky's lost for words, chris is not. Our next guest is coming on.
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Speaker 3:Thank you, Becky. Thank you, Diana for having me on the show. I know I reached out to you guys on such short notice because you guys had my buddy JJ on. He is amazing. Love you, JJ, he was a delight. I know I reached out to you guys on such short notice because you guys had my buddy JJ on.
Speaker 1:He is amazing. Love you, JJ. He was a delight. So how do you and JJ know each other?
Speaker 3:Well, when I first started the podcast, it was probably a little over two years now. Okay, I randomly reached out to him on. I think it was like podcast guests or whatever that website is.
Speaker 2:That's where I found him.
Speaker 3:I saw Southern Demonology and I'm like, oh, that sounds really interesting, let's see what this guy has to say. And the thing that like keyed me in was japanese ghosts and demons and I'm like, okay, that sounds good for a specialized episode.
Speaker 3:So I reached out to jj, had him on the show. It went so great. Then we went on his show. It was for me to share my stories Completely awesome. Then we became friends on social media, tiktok friends, and we just kept sending each other memes back and forth and we've just been good friends ever since.
Speaker 1:Have you met in person.
Speaker 3:Not yet. We plan to do that. We're not that far from each other. I'm in Western Pennsylvania and I think he's like in Northern Virginia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you guys are pretty close, post-pandemic adult relationships no longer depend on physical proximity at all. It's amazing.
Speaker 1:My husband always gives me a hard time whenever Diana and I plan to meet somebody that we've met through the podcast in person, and it's always some remote, haunted, middle of nowhere location and he's like, wait a minute, you do just know these people through the internet, right, and you're going to be driving to where there's no cell phone reception and the lights are out and I'm like, oh, you put it that way.
Speaker 2:Yes, as we hunt for ghosts until 4 am in the woods in the dark.
Speaker 1:You do get to know people very, very well these days through these online channels and through podcasting. I mean, once you have these very intimate conversations about very intense topics, when you think about it, exploring the unknown, then you really do get to know people. So what part of you said Western Pennsylvania? How close are you to Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3:I'm a little bit outside of Pittsburgh. Okay, so you are in the Appalachians technically, yeah, yeah, you could say that.
Speaker 1:I love it because they're haunted and creepy.
Speaker 3:What inspired you to start the wandering road. The reason I started the podcast is because, bless my wife, I've just randomly talked to her about these things that come into my head I talk to my friends about it, talk to my in-laws and it's you know, you run into people that are like, okay, that's nice, I really don't want to talk about this because I don't have an interest in it.
Speaker 3:So my wife, will be sitting there listening to me and I'm also I don't want to say very opinionated, but I just, like you, see all these podcasts out there and I'm not trying to throw shade at anyone or anyone in particular, but, like they throw their opinions out in the ether and some of it is like what are you talking about? And you actually get paid to say this.
Speaker 3:So, so I was like okay, I have certain opinions, I enjoy talking about certain topics, let's give this a try. And it started off kind of like a middle ground type of thing where I take a particular topic that's where the wandering road came from where I didn't have like a specific topic, like each week it would be different. So my first, first episode that I ever did was about the hogwarts stuff, like the video game. Everyone was complaining about it, like if you play it, you support JK Rowling. It's like no, not really, I don't, I don't care for her, but I like the Harry Potter universe type of thing.
Speaker 1:Trying to be objective as possible, Right, separate the art from the artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then my third episode is when I had my cousin on to talk about his paranormal experiences and I was like this was really fun, this was really fun to talk about, it was really creepy. And then I did some solo creepy episodes. I started with La Llorona and that's where it kind of branched out from there. Then I brought Dean on for an episode and I was like dude, we actually really vibe pretty well. Doing this solo is very hard because you have to write out a freaking manuscript before you even start recording. So I was like do you want to come on permanently as a host? And he's like yeah, absolutely. He's like I actually wanted to start a podcast with my wife but we never had time. So he was ready with equipment and everything.
Speaker 3:So like okay, let's, let's get this going and then we just we talk about AI, we talk about aliens, we talk about the paranormal demons, cryptids, whatever strange thing you could think of. We try to tackle and give our opinion on and try to find examples to talk about. But I think the most favorite thing that I do with my podcast is that I try to create like a paranormal safe space therapy type of session, because I'm sure you've guys experienced this as well. When you talk to certain people about this, but for whatever particular reason, whether it be their religious beliefs, you know they just box themselves into their own reality right they're uncomfortable talking about it or they're ashamed to talk about it, and I was like you know what?
Speaker 3:what the hell? Let's bring people on, share your stories. You're not going to be judged, because I went through stuff myself, so I know what it feels like to not be believed.
Speaker 1:So you mentioned that you have your own experiences. What stories would you like to share with us?
Speaker 3:So I can start with the alien one first, to fit your theme.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah.
Speaker 3:It's not as great as it sounds.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 3:Don't say that I'm sure it's not as great as it sounds what Don't say that I'm sure it's not.
Speaker 3:It was one of those things where it's like was it aliens, was it a spotlight, was it a helicopter? I'm leaning more towards something alien-y, and the reason I say that is I grew up in New York, so I was born and raised in the Bronx, but we ended up moving to Queens and that's relevant to the stories I'll share later when I was about nine years old. So I remember this. One time we were coming back from a trip from Manhattan, we took the train and we took the A train specifically, we got off at Lefferts Boulevard and when we got off of the train, we got off at Lefferts Boulevard and when we got off of the train, we start walking home.
Speaker 3:It's about 1030 at night, so this was probably maybe 2003, 2004 ish, and we noticed this light. Like when we'd stop, it would stop. When we walk, it would walk. And I remember my sister was in the stroller and my mom, like I'm walking beside my mom and she looks a little concerned, and I'm like mom, is that, is that the police, is that a spotlight or something? And she didn't know what to tell me. So we just kept going, we just beelined it to home and the entire time. This light is following us and it eventually like we got to our home and we got inside, looked out the window not there anymore how high up in the sky was it when you say it followed you?
Speaker 1:was it like eye height on the sidewalk behind you, or was it like way up in the sky?
Speaker 3:it was like way up in the sky, and the more more I think about it, the more I realize this is not an airplane, this is not a helicopter.
Speaker 1:You would have heard a helicopter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was like a single light, like a single white light With a helicopter. You'd hear the rotors, You'd see the green and red flashing lights.
Speaker 2:Right, of course.
Speaker 3:Same thing with an airplane You'd hear their loud-ass engines. It's not, and I live near JFK Airport, so there's a lot of air traffic coming back and forth through the area and you know what it sounds like. This had no sound.
Speaker 1:This is also before drones were really a thing too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, You're talking early 2000s. So if there were drones they were probably really expensive and no one in my area would have had that.
Speaker 2:And you would have still been able to hear something.
Speaker 3:Right yeah, some sort of motor or something of that sort.
Speaker 2:When you completed the journey and you got home and it turned out that it wasn't there anymore, did you feel like it had any deeper meaning or that it maybe was a threat to you or interacting with you in some way?
Speaker 3:not necessarily um. The only reason I was concerned was because my mom was concerned. I thought it was cool.
Speaker 3:I was like 12 years old at the time 12 13 so at that age I'm like, oh, that looks really neat in the sky, and my mom's like we need to get the fuck home, right? I don't want to stick around to find out you know what's going on, because you're talking about a lady that has her like tween son and her daughter in the stroller, who's maybe would have been, I don't know, five years old at the time. She's like I don't, I don't want to deal with this, I just want to get home.
Speaker 1:You said that was a UFO story, but do you have ghost stories as well?
Speaker 3:Oh, plenty, so I'll start from the beginning. So, like I said, born and raised in New York in the Bronx, ended up moving to Queens. So the first thing that I can specifically remember comes while I was still living in the Bronx. I was probably maybe five years old at the time between ages four to six and I know it's around that time because my sister was just born so it had to be between like five and six years old. If you guys have seen what New York apartments look like, the rooms are very big in such a small area. At the same time, the one big bedroom where I stayed in with my parents there was one big window and all of our beds were situated to the right side of the room, against the wall, and I had this little Batman car bed.
Speaker 3:Yes, and it was pressed up against the wall. So when I would wake up and I would turn, my parents' dresser was right there. You had the TV, so the furniture was all the way on the other side. So I wake up it was around about 3 am. I look over and there's these dwarf looking type of things. What, yeah, in in other cultures, like hispanic culture, they call them duendes. So I didn't know what it was at the time and it wasn't until recently throughout doing my podcast. I'm like, hmm, this kind of sounds like dwen days. There was about six or seven of them there and I'm just looking at them. I can't make out any features or anything. But one thing I specifically remember is that I started yelling at them. So picture a little kid at three in the morning yelling at them, telling, telling them like, why are you here? You don't belong in here, you need to get out now get out of my batmobile, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, don't do not.
Speaker 3:No, this is my batmobile. Get away from it nice so my mom wakes up and she tells me in Spanish basically she reprimands me in Spanish, saying like what the fuck are you doing? Why are you awake? Why are you screaming? And then I told her what I saw. She looks over and obviously I look over and they're not there anymore, of course.
Speaker 3:So I'm like, okay, whatever, I go to bed, fast forward about 30 years, 25 years. When I was visiting my parents in florida this past late august, september, um, me and my wife, we went down there for our third wedding anniversary. I was talking to my mom and I'm like mom, you remember that one time I did that? And she's like yeah, that's not the only time that happened. She's like one time I had to sleep in the bed with you because you said you were scared they were going to get you. One time she was feeding my sister at this around that time, two, three o'clock in the morning, and she came to get me because I was so terrified. I don't have any memory of that. The only memory I have is of the one time when I'm yelling at them and she's like no, this has happened multiple times. So that starts my paranormal journey being tormented as a child.
Speaker 2:By duendes by duendes. Did your mom when she told you about the other instances? Did she say what you described in those instances? Did you ever describe the creatures to her?
Speaker 3:Yeah, she said she's seen them before too, oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just the little shadows.
Speaker 3:So my mom is super Catholic, so she's not really afraid of anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get it For her.
Speaker 3:So if something bothers your kid, you go into mama bear mode. You're like okay, what, what's fucking with my kid? Because I'm gonna kick your ass. Like don't mess with my kid, and that's how my mom always was, both physically and with the paranormal did your mom also think they were duende? She never really named it, but she just kind of validated what I saw.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:She was more focused on you know, making sure her kids were okay, as opposed to, you know, trying to figure out what it is, because she kind of has the mentality is like, okay, I'll deal with it as it comes, but I'm not going to actively try to learn about it. If that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Did these things appear only in that this was the queen's apartment right?
Speaker 3:the bronx apartment they only appeared in the bronx.
Speaker 1:I only saw them there okay, so it's not like they followed you around. Maybe they were just attached to that building somehow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I wish they did, Because I'd rather deal with them than what we dealt with in Queens. Uh-oh yeah, and what's interesting is that the whole Queens situation kind of came full circle when I started my podcast. Kind of came full circle when I started my podcast because almost everybody in the household has. Now that we haven't been there since 2007, 2008. Now people are more comfortable talking about it, but we do it in a joking manner because it's like I'm not going to be down depressed or something like that, because you can't do anything about it now it's whatever, the new owner's problem.
Speaker 3:So in 1999, we moved to Queens. We moved to a two family home. So my parents and myself and my sister, we ended up living upstairs, and my aunt, uncle and cousin they ended up living downstairs. We move into the house. When we were early into the move, my mom had to go to work. I went to school and my aunt came to babysit my younger sister. My mom comes back from work and my aunt tells my mom, you have visitors in this home and my mom's like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:Did somebody?
Speaker 3:come over while we were mom's. Like what are you talking about? Did somebody come over while we were gone? Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Not that kind of visitors.
Speaker 3:No, she's like you have visitors in this home. Yeah, and I'll preface by saying that my mom can hear and see things. She has eight other siblings. They can all do it as well, but they don't really talk about it. The most common thing that would happen when we moved in early on I remember my aunt had this stereo system, like with the whole big speakers from like the 1980s right. So we move in, they have it. So when you walk through the front door, immediately to the left is the door to their part of the house and then for us you would go straight through a little hallway up the stairs and you hang a left and our door is right there Between the steps and that apartment there's like a little walkway to the left and goes around the steps that go in. That goes into the basement. So I remember when I was nine they had the stereo system set up. Nobody was home downstairs, it was me and my mom and my sister. The stereo system would just turn on by itself I went downstairs and I turn it off.
Speaker 3:I look around the place no one's home and I'm like, okay, it's old, it's from the mid 80s, whatever. We're almost in the year 2000. There's something electrical going on. Go back upstairs, happens again. I'm like, okay, you know what, I'm going to unplug it. Unplug it, whatever. Go back upstairs again. Turns on, again unplugged well, well well so I'm like, okay, this is weird.
Speaker 3:And and the odd thing is is that I wasn't the only one that experienced this, that heard this, my mom heard it, my sister heard it. That wasn't the only isolated incident where we unplugged it and it turned on by itself. My cousin dealt with this before he told his parents, like look, this thing is turning on by itself. I didn't turn it on, and they're like you know what? Whatever, we'll go get a new one.
Speaker 1:They get a new one. They get a new setup.
Speaker 3:The fucking thing still turns on by itself. That goes like music. It would go full blast, like full blast. You could turn it off with the knob fully down and it would be full blast. I'd be sitting upstairs in my living room and it would scare the shit out of me. I'm like what the fuck is that? So not only do we have that when we move, then the footsteps in the attic.
Speaker 2:Ooh.
Speaker 3:Every day you would hear back and forth like heavy stomps, like someone had boots on stomping back and forth, back and forth the whole length of the attic.
Speaker 2:Oh, so like from one side of the house all the way to the other.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm, that's the attic stuff.
Speaker 3:My parents, my dad specifically, and my uncle, tried to say it was pigeons and squirrels, and I'm like pigeons don't have Timberland boots on and I'm like pigeons don't have Timberland boots on, so there's no fucking way that it's pigeons and squirrels stomping in the attic. That sounds a little silly as a kid. At the time you accepted the explanation of the adults. I'm not going to argue with you because I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I trust you because you're an adult. You're my parents, you're my aunt, you're my uncle. So we left it alone. Sporadically. You would be sitting in the living room by yourself. You would hear footsteps in the hallway. You would hear footsteps in our house proper, like in our apartment proper, just walking. If you were by yourself, it amplified, but as soon as the lights went out, you would hear footsteps walking back and forth.
Speaker 1:And everybody heard this.
Speaker 3:Yep, my mom is a very light sleeper and she would hear this stuff all the time. Other things that would happen is like we'd be sitting there. This happened frequently between 6 pm and 8 pm every day after school. I don't know why, but we would hear three knocks on our door. Me as a little 11 year old kid my dumb ass. I'm like, oh shit, my cousin's here, like we're gonna go play playstation or something. I open the door. No one's there. I'm like, okay, whatever happens again. I open the door. No one's there. This happens frequently for like weeks on end. My dad's sitting there watching like nbc news, like forcing us to watch it.
Speaker 3:I don't really give a crap then one day it happens again and I was gonna get up and go answer the door and he was like no, I'm gonna go answer it, just to make sure it's not your cousin dicking around trying to prank us, because my cousin is like maybe five, six years older than me. So my dad goes, opens the door and he never believed me when I said there was no one there. Here's a knock, opens the door. There's nobody there.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:We go downstairs. We both go downstairs. There's nobody home. My cousin's out with his friends. My uncle worked at a school overnight so he wasn't there, and my aunt and my mom worked in Manhattan. They weren't home because they usually came home at the same time, because they had to take. They took the same train, so he's like, okay, no one there.
Speaker 3:I don't know what it is the other thing that would happen to me in that house. This only happened once, but it's still terrifying to me this day. I was maybe 12 years old at the time and I got up around four in the morning because I really had to use the bathroom. I get up, I walk to my room door and I hear this growl Think of the beast from Beauty and the Beast this guttural growl. I freeze, I don't know what's out there. I'm terrified. I go back into bed and I just lay there in fear for hours until the sun comes up. I never liked being alone in that house. I always felt like something was watching me. I wasn't the only one that had a nighttime experience like that okay, okay my cousin who lived downstairs.
Speaker 3:He woke up one night around three in the morning, needed to use the restroom. He got to his door and he saw this light going from the bathroom down to the basement. Bathroom, down to the basement. There was nobody awake, no footsteps, no, nothing. He said he just sat in his bed, stared at the bottom of the door and just watched this light go back and forth for hours until the sun came up. You know, like remembering all of this stuff, like yeah, I joke about it and it's just it makes me really uncomfortable, because anytime I talk about this place it feels like whatever is there knows you're talking about it. So we had the footsteps in the attic, we have the knocking on the door, you have the footsteps going through the living room.
Speaker 3:There were instances where my aunt would be home alone downstairs and she would hear someone stomping in my room oh, that's, scary just stomping, running back and forth like just going ham like a teenager on on drugs or something could that have been what growled? At you potentially so.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember one time she came upstairs like screaming she's like it's like nine o'clock at night I'm trying to sleep and we were all in the living room watching a movie. Fast forward to the summer of this is probably 0506 to the summer of this was probably 05, 06. My dad's sister had come to live with us so she ended up staying upstairs with us. I laugh at it now.
Speaker 3:Picture this you walk into the apartment. As soon as you get in, there's the dining room. To the left is the living room. You go directly to the right, there's a door. You open the door, it brings you into the kitchen. You walk eight feet and it takes you to this kind of squarish hallway. If you go down the hallway, take an immediate left is the entrance to the bathroom, and directly across from the bathroom is the entrance to the closet and there's probably a good I want to say six and a half, seven feet between those two doors. So I'm standing in the kitchen, my mom is standing in the kitchen, my sister is standing in my room doorway. My aunt walks out of my parents' room, turns to go into the bathroom, opens the steps one foot inside and then gets flung into the closet door whoa like she stepped on a landmine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right I can remember it clear as day. That's something that's been burnt into my mind forever. Like she gets shoved, she lets out a little yelp, slams into the door and my mom to try to diffuse the situation because she has a teenager and a young girl. She's like, oh, I guess the ghost had to use the bathroom. I talked to my aunt about it. I'm like, yeah, you remember that. She's like oh, how can I forget?
Speaker 3:and she's like that thing hated me oh she was a devout christian and that thing hated my grandmother because my grandmother on my indian, on my, my dad's side, my dad's indian and my grandmother was a devout hindu and she would wake up every day before sunrise to pray. There were times where, after my grandfather passed away, something would take a cup of water and toss it in her face while she's sleeping. Oh, which she confided into my mom a little bit before she passed away, and she said that they don't let me sleep, the voices don't let me sleep.
Speaker 1:The voices.
Speaker 3:She'd be like in a dead sleep and something would scream in her face. These things would push her. There was one time my sister saw her actually get pushed, like she was just standing still and, you see, like something nudges her over and she falls. Oh my gosh, yeah. So there were instances where it got violent. For some reason, it never got violent with me, it never showed itself to me. It would never show itself to the men that lived in the household. It was only the women.
Speaker 2:Was it women or was it people who were very strong believers in their faith?
Speaker 3:My mom like being very Catholic. Yeah, it would make itself known. I think it would make itself known, like you said, dianaiana, to people that were strong believers. Because my dad, even though he was a strong believer at the time, it's like he's working like a manual labor job, like all the time he doesn't have time to process this stuff. Same with my uncle and my cousin being a teen, like he's never home, he's like out with his girlfriend and friends and stuff like that. So they would be the ones that were most affected. So jj thinks it's demonic the growl yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, jj thinks something there is demonic and I will share that. I found out this information late last year that prior to moving into the home there were two older German ladies that live across the street. Never told anyone this. They introduced themselves because they saw they were moving in. They said to my aunt you have to bless that home before you move in and after you move in, because the people there they were German as well were involved in some occult practices. They made the claim that some poor girl was used for maybe some satanic or nefarious purposes oh my god I would think if you're doing something like that, you're opening a portal.
Speaker 3:The claim is that this happened in the same room that my mom tried to bless and got choked in wait what yeah well, you, you didn't go over that part yet no, no, I was trying to go in like sequential order all right damn okay so the german ladies next door said we just want to warn you there was some nefarious satanism going on there and you better bless the house when you allegedly alleged satanism.
Speaker 2:Okay, gotcha, gotcha and then so your mom followed the advice. She tried to bless the house yeah.
Speaker 3:So my mom didn't do that until after her and my dad actually signed closing documents to move. This happened after I told my parents like look, I want to get the fuck out of here, I don't want to live here anymore.
Speaker 1:I was either a junior or senior in high school at this point, oh, so you put up with it for a few years.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and also because of my sister. My sister had an imaginary friend named Andy.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's not creepy at all.
Speaker 3:No, it was a kid that was dressed in a 1920s sailor suit she described him. Oh, dressed in a 1920s sailor suit? She described him. Yeah, yeah, you know those things like to appear as children. Yep, my sister would walk around holding his hand and one time we were going to go to the store down the street. We get to the end of the street and my mom's like is andy still with you? And she's like no, he's not allowed to leave this general area. He has to go back to the house.
Speaker 2:Not allowed by who?
Speaker 3:She said that Andy's mom didn't allow him to leave a specific area. He wasn't allowed to go across the street, leave a specific area. He wasn't allowed to go across the street. After we we decided to move my mom being catholic, she likes to bless the house. She had those little you ever seen, those lantern thingies they have in the catholic church, so she would get that. She would put incense in it and she'd light it and she'd go around every room saying her prayer.
Speaker 3:Whatever she does this upstairs, she does my room, her room, my sister's kitchen, living room, dining room, everything's fine. She goes downstairs, tells my uncle, like hey, I'm doing a cleanse, is it okay? Because my family downstairs. They were Muslim. So she always asked like okay, is it okay if I do this for you? And my uncle's like you know, I don't give a shit Like asked like okay, is it okay if I do this for you? My uncle's like you know I don't give a shit like like you're, it's a prayer to god, you're fine. So she does their living room, does their dining room, kitchen, goes to my aunt's room, fine, goes to my cousin's room. And this is where it gets fucking weird. She started, you know, swinging it, you know, to get the incense smoke. Sure, started saying a prayer, atmosphere got really thick and she felt something like choking her To the point where she's like I gotta get the fuck out of this room before I pass out from being choked.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 3:Fast forward to that night. Night she has a dream that she wakes up. She's still in her bed, the environment is the house in her dream and in her doorway is this old lady pointing at her, yelling at her you're trying to get me out of my own fucking house. I'm gonna fucking kill you and your fucking family. This is my fucking house. You're trying to get me out of my own fucking house. I'm going to fucking kill you and your fucking family. This is my fucking house. You're not going to kick me out of my own fucking house.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:And she the whatever the thing was emphasized. She's like I'm going to kill your son, your daughter and your husband. My mom said in the dream she got pissed off. She didn't. She grabbed the lady, pinned her to the wall by the throat and said you're not gonna fucking kill anybody. If anybody's gonna fucking kill anyone, I'm gonna fucking kill you.
Speaker 1:You're not gonna touch my kids you're not gonna touch my husband.
Speaker 3:And this thing had fear in its eyes and fucking shape-shifted into a little girl to get sympathy. She shared it with me, like as soon as she woke up the next day. You could either go two ways. You know, there's a demonic thing there. There's a demon in there that likes to shapeshift and, you know, put itself forward as this frail, like images of old women, little kids.
Speaker 1:Little sailor boys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, or there's multiple things there bound by this one strong evil thing. And, as I'm telling you this, if you notice, I keep looking over to my doorway because it just feels creepy yeah.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine. Oh gosh, that's such a story. Oh gosh, that's such a story. Oh, did you ever get any more details about the, the germans who lived there, who practiced satanism or?
Speaker 3:something allegedly. The only thing that I know was that they found like old, like world war ii, memorabilia from the axis side your family found that in the house yeah, yeah, because when they sold the house, like the people that sold it I guess it was the kids of the former owner they just sold it as is and they were like bye, everything was left there, everything in the attic. And I think the bad thing is is my aunt kept some of the furniture downstairs and that's like a big no-no.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Some of like the china cabinet and the dining table. You'd think those things would be harmless, but oh no, who wants to haunt a table? I guess they really like that table.
Speaker 2:Foodies.
Speaker 3:That's where they strap their victims to.
Speaker 1:Oh. And then you're eating off of it the very fact that there was nazi paraphernalia in the house. Yeah, there's just so much negative energy with that alone, right? Did your parents find a way to get rid of that, or did they just like put it in a box and pretend it wasn't there?
Speaker 3:since my aunt and uncle were technically the owners of the home. I'm not sure what they did with it. I think they eventually tossed it, but whatever was there was already bound to it, because there have been incidents that has happened in that home post us leaving oh, like where you know police have been involved and all this other stuff, and I get this information firsthand from my cousin that lives across the street you can see everything going on.
Speaker 3:And yeah it's one of those things where I don't know what it is. I don't want to know and I always say to anyone listening to my story please debunk it. I'd rather there be a scientific explanation for everything as opposed to that being real my last story I have from that house. I do have other things that happened to me recently. The last thing that happened to me in that house, I would hear my name being called and it would be my mom's voice. It would be my dad's voice, my aunt, my uncle. There was one instance where my my name was called and my mom heard it in her voice. She heard it. I knew she was in the kitchen. So I go out of my room and I start walking there and she's like don't answer it. You never answer that stuff. It's the dead calling.
Speaker 2:You do not answer it's the dead calling you. She was so confident she, she just like flat out, this is how it is yeah, I don't think anyone else other than my mom and myself.
Speaker 3:I've never asked my sister if she heard it in that house. We fast forward to. It was maybe the fall of 07, 06. So shortly before we're moving out the way my schedule was as a high schooler at the time like I had a very short schedule because you know your last couple of years of high school you've done all your classes. All you have is like three lunch periods and a gym class. Why am I even here?
Speaker 3:So I get home like around 1130 in the morning, right, I go to my room, turn on my computer, then I turn on my Xbox. I'm sitting there, I'm completely home alone. Then I hear my mom's voice calling me. I'm like hmm, that's odd. I ignore it. Did as she said before, don't pay mind to. It Happens again. I'm like what the fuck? So I pick up my phone. I call my mom.
Speaker 3:My mom works in Manhattan. I can hear the people around her. I can hear the wind, because Manhattan was always windy, and she's like hey, is everything okay? I'm at work, I'm not going to be home till about four o'clock. Like what's going on? And I was like I'm just making sure you didn't come home early. She's like no, why, what's going on? I told her what happened and she's like you know what to do. Just ignore it. I'll be home when I can Close your room door if you have to.
Speaker 3:I hang up the phone. I'm like okay, whatever, I just continue doing what I'm doing. I hear the voice call me two more times Chris, chris and I'm like I mumble under my breath Like just leave me the fuck alone. There was a door that was open, that separated the dining room and the kitchen. No windows were open. There was no draft in the house. That fucking thing like like, does a heavy ass like it slams shut and I'm like fuck this. Like all the hair on my body stood up, yeah, and I I just sat there in fear, I closed my room door and I just laid in my bed until somebody came. Somebody came home and then I told my parents I don't want to live here anymore. I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 3:And for the long time, from maybe age 12 to that point, I was an atheist because I was big into history still big into history. I went to school for history. I wanted to be a history professor and reading through historical texts, you come across situations where you question your faith in God. That situation happens and I sit there and I think to myself if there is something evil here, there has to be a counter to it, there has to be something good. And that's how I got back into Catholicism. I'm not going to say I'm the greatest Catholic. I try to go to church. But when it comes to stuff like this, like yeah, I take it seriously. So that kind of gave me not a nudge back into my faith, but a good kick in the ass.
Speaker 1:I have a quick question Okay, horror house trope here. I have a quick question Okay, horror house trope here. Did you get this house for a great deal, or did your aunt get it for a great deal? Because I always wonder about this. Was it on sale?
Speaker 3:It probably was to be honest with you. It was a nice area. Now I have to ask the whole Nazi parap paraphernalia thing that is 100 like they found it. They refused to show it to us. They're like no, you're not gonna go upstairs and dick around with this stuff. They found the old german bible. I think it was either a vermont or a waffen ss uh uniform that was up there. It had to have been somebody that escaped before the allies took over or, you know, kind of snuck away.
Speaker 1:Chris, this has been an amazing interview. Thank you so much for sharing your stories with us. I think we're going to have to talk to you about having a return on our show at some point, Chris. This has been wonderful.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Chris.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you. Thank you both. Is your podcast just available on podcatchers? This is also available on youtube.
Speaker 3:Where can people find it? So you can find the wandering road. We're available on apple, spotify, all your podcast platforms. We have a youtube channel. If you search the wandering road. We post our podcast there as well. We're also on social media. You can reach us on Instagram at TWRoadPodcast. We're on Twitter I'll never call it X At TWRoadPodcast and we are also on facebook. If you search the wandering road, you can like our page, and where I'm most active it it's tiktok. So if you search at twr podcast, you can find us there. And if you want to be a guest on the show or if you have stories or just want to suggest a topic, you can reach us via our email address of twroadpodcastgmailcom.
Speaker 1:Okay, and we'll have all that information in our show notes and in the description below this episode as well.
Speaker 2:Painted Loves. What do you think If you heard these footsteps moving across the floor at night from the quarters of a potential Nazi sympathizer calling your name? What would you do? I think I'd have a spooky day.
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